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9/11tv Sens. Graham Blumenthal on Designating Russia as State Sponsor of... CSPAN June 20, 2024 4:25pm-4:49pm EDT
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virginia seven and virginia 10 we have new candidates in those, will they run? yet. will when there is choice or other issues. again so far they may be runnin■ they necessarily translate into other candidates. they have a great chance to test out that theory
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designating russia as a state sponsor of terrorism. blumenthal: in some ways hope to be again in the united states senate. exhibit a, i rest my case. the most■/ committing leaders n the world standing, this picture says it all. russiaeserves to be and in fact, it has deeply5 earned the designation to be a state sponsor of terrorism.and sanctie
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strengthened yes, there would bein my view, this message world is as sense as any practical consequence. russia deserves■o t club of kild russia deserves to besq states . wl pu fight, it is bipartisan and we have othand il
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we visited theé site of the mass grave. their back, shot in the head. we have talked to prosecutors aboutussia kidnapping children and indoctrinating them in russia, taking them away from their loved ones and paren.we hd of terrorism that re world. and i believet the united states senate has to take a stand. sen. graham: well, the jury calling them guilty, you did a good job. history that will be viewed decades toollow as consequential. what do you have to do to become
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a state sponsor of terrorism? ut of windows, right and left, putin has been involved with the bogner group which is the extension of the e, dismembering africa. navalny's death was beyond strange. every form of opposition has beenthey use the benefits of the russian state to support group and and now putin has entered into a defense agreement with one of ns on the planet. ■$we have lost deterrence. the fact that he would be boldet said, one of the most oppressive regimes on th means that we have lost to terrorists. it matter? it would be a morale boost peopd make russia even more of aif yos
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with russia them a state sponsor of terrorism you doo at yit would allow victims f putin's■i■ barbaric behavior to access american courts through this designation. two are friends with the with you on saudi and israel and i will work about the al between saudi arabia and israel. but if you worry about being too t russia stop worrying. stop worrying, you are not twe t comes to russia. the last really tool in the designation of making russia a state sponsor of terrorism. i think there are only seven nations that have this degnat it matters a lot. i would urge senate
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leadership to bring this bill tt engage. it means that they wear a label well-deserved. syri iran, cuba, north korea and now russia. of a thepld with on the national secuq(rity center, blumenthal has been consistent. he has a proud democrat when itr democracy and to thugs, he is sendi have a pending arrest wart in russia. iyou make me look like a choir boy. ■%the bottom line is we are not giving up and we will insist on a boat. thbedo i think to shape the future is to label puti terrorist leader because he has. would have enormous benefits in ukraine, i think. to have a vote on the bill.
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sen. blumenthal: i want to just that senator graham, he has not always been seen with compassionate or inspiring in a way that john mccain was consistent and inspiring and i often think of john mccain at this moment and what he would think about al bipartisan partnership and for everybody in this room: what russia has■3 done to its journalists. if there were no other reason to cite the of american journalistsworldwide by vladimid the russian state, that would be my exhibit b. exhibit a is the partnership between kim putin, marching literally together.
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theirountry signing a military partnership, hostile to the pead liberty and justice around the world. you know it is time for the senate to take this. any questions? yes. >> so, have you spoken with the ■$ about the that? the tiktok bill in the way the house that worked that out that was successful. have you guys worked with the administration on the wording of this bill? sen. blumenthal: i have lk out this resolution. they are certainly sympathetic to the goal. we have worked on some specifics and we will continue to work with but i think it is time now for us to move forward. and they understand that we might have differences of approach or opinion. and i think they respect us for
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what we are trying to do. sen. graham: he has word w've worked with the state department. i do not think we are being provocative aboube putin a state-sponsored terrorists. iit is earned. but after the defense agreement between north korea and russia, it is time for us to push back. now is the moment above al so i would urge the administration, given what putin has done yesterday, let us go his regime for what it is, a state sponsor ofanyone who■dorea should be a state sponsor of terrorism. >> this migh too provocative? sen. blumenthal: no. >> questions for both of you. will you try to bring this up by unanim consent if you cannot get the promise of a vote.
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both attending the address next month? i will be. and i prepared to seek unanimous consent. bu our preference would be to move forward in regular order and give the senate a chance to vote on it as a whole. anduld permit it. but there is an urgency here that■úig us to seek unanimous consent. sen. graham:>> are trepe sanctis that would kick in with this designation that are not currently in place right now? and what putin and north korea say that he supports north korea's ability to enhance thrb. did you take that as an nuclear program?
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it is you you know, and i do not want to hold up the picture for a third time. this photograph is not just outrageous, it scary. signals coora ukraine, but against the united states. the kinds of -- into the classireceived to tell you how frightening the idea is that russia would be lending its nuclear expertise to north korea. remember, for years and years opposed north=z exactly this ki capacity, nuclear capacity because it was
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so fri■tened of what this madman might do. so i interpret it as an endorsement. and that is one of the reasons why i think we to use every tool available. consequence would be.e you wha russia's courts would be severey rested state sponsor of terrorism and thereconsequences for sanctions enforcement. and other results. >> senatorhave you had any with former president trump in supporting this? sen. graham: i have not. i am trying to get it put together. it would be a good question to ask him. the bottom line to put it simply, notare they any
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defense agreement they might be providing nuclear expertise to north korea to increase their nuclear arsenal. now if that does not get you to being a state sponsor of terroris, what would? increasing the nuclear capability of■z already on the state sponsor of terrorism last■i should be an automatic inclusion of the country in question. imous consent, i would like the committee to have a fato me this is one of the most important decisions our generation of politicians will make. because if we made russia a spate -- a state-sponsored terrorismmomentum in ukraine ov. it would be a morale boost of theany -- it would make it hardo business with russia. my hope is that the russian people one day will be free of they are suffering as much as anyone.
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i have not been either.h with former president you didn't ask me. >> ukraine would not have any questions on the language but brought onto the floor. do you have any ideas of timing. also ukraine right now calling for the a to remove restrictions for american long-range missiles because there were a lot efforts to reach out to the administration. would you their efforts to use american long-range missiles. sen. blumenthal: which is i strongly support this resolution. it has a passion we sought to communicate but it is no substitu■[nuing military support to ukraine or substitute for long-range
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and air defensewe need to heigy support during these absolutely critical times for u seeks to extend itself against a russian counteroffensive and prepare for its own military and we permit, veryearly in explicitlytargetsian-controlled territory that might be behind the lines. i have endorsefo time the authority that ukra needs to attack russian command er depots, just as targets. attacngand we need to
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sen. graham: we are trying to her front. we learned that putin could care less about how the rure. you could just kill young russians in perpetuity does not change the behavior. until tells us that --intel says that he cares■ywhen we aree sovereign wealth assets of russia to seize them to help them -- to help the victims of ukraine is having an effect. if we made russia a st terroriss them up to litigation american it harder for anyone to help him. to me this summer and more military more those things.tion towards t sen. blumenthal: one more es when do you think it would be
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brought on the floor. do you have any ideas of when? sen. blumenthal: know, i think predictions on time are hazardous around the united states senate. g to make a prediction prior --r than later. >> a question for about your poe idea of including women in the draft. sen. graham:lg that is not the subject of debate today. sen. blumenthal: one more. have you spoken with your colleagues in the house to make sure that itpresident's desk ifs through the senate. se bment i would be the last person the world to say that i have done a scientic amoe but i can tell you thate very sn support. we just went on a trip to ;5normandy. profoundly moving.
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lead a delegation of about 20 senators. d there. ll you i was moved by ■[ speeches. i was affectedrofoundly by talking to the veterans. now, they lived through d-day. and walking the beach in normandy, beach where those soldiersight feet of water, and then had to fields flat with nohey were under a hail oforotrs -- morrs and machine guns, that wa courage of a moment of time. i talked to mbe to normandy for
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that trip. if we can summon the courage of that kind of moment this resolution well for countering russia as it perilsw just as h'- hilter - hitler did,is going to. arms or the united states galvanizing the world against north korea, russia, democracy is under siege and assault. and this is not just words on a piece of paper. this is a statement of moral intent. sen. graham: rounding out imagiu voted against you had a chancek
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what you would be enbe saying wt is not enoh. the dismembering of a sovereign nation, the mass rape of women, the kidnapping of children, north korea for god's sake. africa. on and on. iw representative mccall ibut ir of the house and senate, if you give russia a pass here, given all that putin has done, have lost deterrence. if this is not enough if there was any doubt about who putin terrorist defense agreement with north
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korea and pledged to help their nuclear program. that then in history all the wrong ways. if you could go back in time and learom the 30's where people apologized and rode off as wanting this is notáñ who they dealt with,i am telling you that if yt putin get away with this latest misadventure you will not age well in history. ■z
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